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FE Mustang Mach I (1998) vs. retooled '70 Mustang Mach 1 (2007)?

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gr612060	FE Mustang Mach I (1998) vs. retooled '70 Mustang Mach 1 (2007)?	Lead	[-]
Collector Posts: 7 (10/15/09 10:19 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Remove this ad This one is for fans of the Hot Wheels 1970 Ford Mustang Mach 1. In 1998, Mattel debuted the First Editions "Mustang Mach I," designed by Phil Riehlman. It featured a metal body, plastic base, plastic louver/spoiler, shaker hood scoop and hood-mounted tachometer. In 2007, Mattel released a retooled version of the car, renaming it slightly as "'70 Mustang Mach 1." Making its first appearance in the Holiday Rods series, the car introduced a metal chassis (molded to include both the taillights and front grille as a single assembly), did away with the hood-mounted tach but kept the shaker hood scoop and plastic louver/spoiler. Each version of the HW Mach 1 has its benefits and drawbacks. Cast your vote, and if you're so inclined, please add a few words about the reason for your choice. Looking forward to the replies! Adam Which HW Mach 1 do you prefer: The original '98 release or newer '07 version? (Result) I prefer the 1998 FE Mustang Mach I I prefer the retooled 2007 '70 Mustang Mach 1
blukat9		#1	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 15007 (10/15/09 12:40 PM) Diehard Diecast Collector Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BECAUSE ALL METAL ...TRUE DIECAST COLLECT FOR THE SURE FUN OF IT.
454smallblock	FE Mustang Mach 1 (1998) vs. retooled '70 Mustang Mach 1 (2007)	#2	[-]
Diecast Fanatic Posts: 417 (10/15/09 04:09 PM) Diecast Fanatic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I thought they only did away with the tac. on the since 68 series? Doesnt that purple peg warmer have the tac?I like them both really but you got to watch the crooked spoilers.
gr612060		#3	[-]
Collector Posts: 8 (10/15/09 06:05 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	454smallblock wrote: I thought they only did away with the tac. on the since 68 series? Doesnt that purple peg warmer have the tac?I like them both really but you got to watch the crooked spoilers. You're right, they did away with the tach for the retooled casing, but the purple, orange and newly released green Rebel Rides repaints currently on the pegs are the 1998 casting. Mattel actually has both versions concurrently available in different series. And I know what you mean about the plastic louvers/spoilers. The one on the orange Rebel Rides is the worst; it falls off when touched even slightly. Earlier releases, including the purple Rebel Rides, didn't seem to have this problem. For the record, the '98 release is still my favorite of the two castings, though. I love the metal base on the '07 retool, but think its metal-cast taillights always seem to jut out from the rest of the rear of the car, and are frequently a "gappy" fit. Just doesn't look right to me and comes off as cheap somehow. Last Edited By: gr612060 10/15/09 10:42 PM. Edited 2 times.
jhardy6505		#4	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 726 (10/15/09 06:12 PM) VP of Toys, Inc. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BECAUSE ALL METAL ...TRUE DIECAST COLLECT FOR THE SURE FUN OF IT How dose being all metal make it a True Diecast? Plastic can be CAST from a DIE just like metal.
Pegers		#5	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 434 (10/15/09 06:26 PM) Certified Toy Nut Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	guess,you would have to say i am on the fence on this one. i like them both..
OLDSHUNTR		#6	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 5864 (10/15/09 07:58 PM) Forum Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	jhardy6505 wrote: BECAUSE ALL METAL ...TRUE DIECAST COLLECT FOR THE SURE FUN OF IT How dose being all metal make it a True Diecast? Plastic can be CAST from a DIE just like metal. So can plaster of paris, but really, which would you prefer for 2 pennies more?
dragonhead00		#7	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 490 (10/17/09 06:20 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm for the original Mach 1. The hood tach does it for me.
Sticker Ninja		#8	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 1786 (10/21/09 09:14 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Remove this ad Just thought this thread needed a few pix to use for a comparo. The differences here in the front are obvious right off. On the new, the grill and bumper are both part of the base and the tach is missing. If they would have kept the grill part of the base and the bumper part of the body, I would have liked the new one better I'm sure. But they didn't, and I don't. Again bumper and taillights are both part of the base. If'n ya ask me, the new one looks cheap. Kinda like a China car. Original looks more... well... original. Winner, Original. You can't see it in the pics, but the main differences from the side are the bottom panel, and the upper body lines. Bottom panels on the original have grooves like the original 1/1 scale did. Looks like a bolt-on piece maybe? The new one does have the appropriate upper body line, and the right shape to the hoodscoop. The casting line is towards the rear in the old, right behind the window on the new. Really? Why? Again, winner? Old. I didn't take a pic of the base, the detail is better in the plastic, but the the other is metal. Draw. I vote Original. Sticker Ninja Last Edited By: Sticker Ninja 10/21/09 09:23 PM. Edited 1 times.
gr612060		#9	[-]
Collector Posts: 12 (10/21/09 09:26 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Sticker Ninja, Many thanks for the great side-by-side pics, and for the detailed comparison. I'm with you 100% on all points. By the way, not sure how many people have also noticed this, but the Rebel Rides (which uses the original casting) now sports a newly defined grill and base (possibly the interior as well). If you should have a chance, please compare any pre-2007 releases with the Rebel Rides. The newer grill and base are far better, IMHO. Adam
OLDSHUNTR		#10	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 5872 (10/22/09 09:17 PM) Forum Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Great comparisson. The new one looks more like one of the old JL Speed Rebels from back in the day. They were correct, but oooohh-so-vaguely.
gr612060		#11	[-]
Collector Posts: 13 (10/23/09 09:15 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've also posted this poll on HWC and it's interesting to note that, as of this reply at least, the results are reversed. So far, voters on the Shack favor the original casting while those on HWC prefer the '07 version. There are around 10-11 voters so far on each site.
OLDSHUNTR		#12	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 5875 (10/23/09 09:37 PM) Forum Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	gr612060 wrote: I've also posted this poll on HWC and it's interesting to note that, as of this reply at least, the results are reversed. So far, voters on the Shack favor the original casting while those on HWC prefer the '07 version. There are around 10-11 voters so far on each site. I think you will find that most of the posters here at Joes are more of the old school quality beliefs. Most of the newer so-called collectors are of the plastic-is-ok s'cool.
jet threat kevin		#13	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 72 (10/23/09 10:28 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	On the retool, the headlights and taillights look oversized and the fit of the base around the taillights and frontend has too many gaps and the fit is not as seamless. I've noticed on some of the newer castings, the mold lines are clearly visible. However, I do prefer the all metal castings as opposed to plastic body or chassis. I like picking up a casting and having it feel "heavy." The heavier castings (such as the castings from the late 60's to late seventies and even a few from the early 80's) usually perform better on the track because the weight helps them through the 180 degree turns of the old track sets. Just my 2 cents
markkaz		#14	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 9008 (10/25/09 09:40 AM) Still plays with toys Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks for the pics Ninja! * RaceGrooves.com * Diecast YouTube Videos * eBay Feedback *
blukat9		#15	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 15053 (10/26/09 01:42 PM) Diehard Diecast Collector Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I LIKE THE CLASSIC'S VERSION BEST...ALL METAL WITH GREAT COLORS COLLECT FOR THE SURE FUN OF IT.
blukat9		#16	[-]
VP of Toys, Inc. Posts: 15054 (10/26/09 01:43 PM) Diehard Diecast Collector Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Remove this ad OOPS...DIFFERENT YEAR...SORRY COLLECT FOR THE SURE FUN OF IT.

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FE Mustang Mach I (1998) vs. retooled '70 Mustang Mach 1 (2007)?

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Which HW Mach 1 do you prefer: The original '98 release or newer '07 version? (Result)